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 03-03-2006, 19:17 Post: 125531
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 Duke SCummingham Gets 8

Well after taking 2.5 million in bribes and defrading the tax payers out of millions, Duke pleads guilty and gets a 1.8 million file and 8.5 years in prison.
With his blatant abuses it two a few years to pin him down. I wonder how many others are less blatant and continuing to feed at the trough.
He provided no explanation for what he did. Sorry for himself and not the broken public trust. Personally, I don't think they should give him the country club. Get him to bunk with Bubba. It might help his prostrate problem.






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 03-04-2006, 09:59 Post: 125548
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So Bill and Hillary, made Duke line his pockets at tax payer’s expense? What is the connection? I can not even see that Duke was a lodge member like Bill.
Do you think Duke is the victim of partisan politics? If the dogs that were unleashed on every item in Bill’s life could not convict him, what right do I have to say he was guilty of all his supposed crimes. Duke called out all his friends to protect him and he was still convicted. Not to say that that I think Bill is a choir boy and I would trust him with my daughter, let alone the country.
As I stated to start this it boggles the mind to consider what the less blatant or better connected are getting away with. You can not get much better connected than the Skull and Bones and the CIA. Humm?
To me stealing from the public trust, by an elected offical is the same as treason. He has stolen from every person in the US. To me this is different than the local drug dealer who is influencing one neighborhood. More than one person in the US has be put to death for treason. The US is not a company, this is not like the corporate crime cases of Enron and Tyco, we should not consider this part of the cost of doing business. Hopefully this is the difference between a true democracy and totalitarian regime.






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 03-04-2006, 12:25 Post: 125555
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Personally I think nothing will change until we have a party that looks for candidates that have some other talent than the ability to B.S. You can not fill a room with exlawyers and expect to get anything constructive done. The same could be said for MBA's, teachers or any other single profession. They might work well individually but if you put them in a group, help!!!






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 03-05-2006, 22:05 Post: 125602
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I think we can trace the modern credibility gap of senior politicians, back to Ike and his doctrine of plausible deniability. To him it did not matter what he did as long as he could deny responsibility or knowledge and it was plausible enough for the public to believe it. Unfortunately his work in the war had tied him to the intelligence community and deception became common place and acceptable. I think you will find that they all have used it since.
DR I guess you hit a note with me. There are a number of people in this country that spend time listening to rushite talking heads. Rather than talking about right and wrong they seem to want to talk about shades of evil. I believe the parties are equally corrupt, you just have to dig a little harder to find the republican's agenda. Personally someone like Rush or Cunningham standing on moral superiority makes me sick.
I can not tell you that Clinton’s peccadilloes undermined the moral fiber of the country more than Reagan or Bush. I am not sure they had prior data on the oral sexual conduct of children to compare with. Seems to me that my Californian room mates had some bizarre stories when I was in university 28 years ago and this was long before the Clinton. I know the Iran contra drug running definitely affected the moral fiber in the 80’s. Although I grew up in a high drug area, thanks to the hippies and draft dodgers from California, there was no cocaine until the 80’s and the pipeline was opened.
Sin is sin and the moral nature of the country suffers everytime respected leaders, play dirty. Personally I think the things done in secret are far more damaging than those in the light.






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